Konqueror Search (Mockup)
Various KDE Extensions
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This is just an idea for an improvement for konqueror.
In more and more KDE apps there are these nice search bars (kmail, juk, bookmark search in kde 3.4...) to quickly access what you want.
So I thought: why not have this too in konqueror? I'll describe why I think this could be useful:
I quite often navigate in konqueror using the keyboard. So I just type "u" (or maybe "us") if I want to open the dir "usr".
With the proposed search bar, I would be able to type any part of the filename.
So for example, when I'm in the root directory, I could just type
us [enter] lo [enter] po [enter] wm [enter]
to get to /usr/local/portage/x11-wm.
I think that could be really convenient. What do you think?

polrus

11 years ago

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22720

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maarizwan

12 years ago

This is just what KDE File Manager (kfm) needs.

1. It should also show 'files' with matching 'pattern' like

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Location:/opt/kde/bin search: "ks"
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must show

1. ksnapshot
2. ksmiltris
3. ksysv
4. ksayit
5. ksirc
6. *ks*
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Pepper

12 years ago

Error during compilation. :(

source='metabar.cpp' object='metabar.lo' libtool=yes \
depfile='.deps/metabar.Plo' tmpdepfile='.deps/metabar.TPlo' \
depmode=gcc3 /bin/sh ../admin/depcomp \
/bin/sh ../libtool --silent --mode=compile --tag=CXX g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/lib/qt3//include -I/usr/X11R6/include /arts -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -O2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -c -o metabar.lo `test -f 'metabar.cpp' || echo './'`metabar.cpp
g++: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
make: *** [metabar.lo] Error 1

Any ideas? :)

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Pepper

12 years ago

Sorry - i post to wrong window.

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kreten1

12 years ago

have you heard about the beagle project?
it's something like spotlight for macosx (tiger).
check it here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/

and the video here: http://nat.org/demos/beagle-1.html

with this you dont need other search stuff..

br

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pinaraf

12 years ago

The feature requested here is different : it is about implementing a file list filter, and this can be useful, even when using beagle.

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scream

12 years ago

How about integrating a search like in firefox?
But with some differences:
When you're in filemanager mode, it hides the non-matching items, when you're browsing the web, it just works as the firefox search bar does. The firefox search bar is really great, it's one of the most innovative features it has. Simple, clean and really useful.

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gordin

12 years ago

I dont like it because another search bar ist IMHO not necessary.
I don't see the difference to the current behaviour when entering a path (or a ftp-url btw). Just enter /us [keydown] lo [keydown] po [keydown] x11 [keydown]. (This is if you set the behaviour of the location bar with right mouse to "Dropdownmenu", which should be the default).
I even tink that the existing locate (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=17201) (or ilocate) kio-slave is much better for searching in konqueror by typing something into the location bar than integrating another bar.
As for searching in web-pages: You can search for text by hitting "/" and then start typing the text (just like in man-pages using less for displaying)
You have to use the keyboard in any case. I think just hitting "/" is much easier than clicking into some searchbar with the mouse and then start typing.

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isma

12 years ago

Yeap, you're right about these current methods, I use them a lot (I mean, the "/" search & dropdown list), but think they're a bit "hidden" to the user. The same thing about locate kioslave (what I think it's one of greatest advance in usability) and generally all kioslaves. Tools are there, and are good, but they're a bit like a puzzle, each one come from its own father & mother (spanish expression - I'm not sure it you know what I mean).

And I think this topic is about a way to find files inside a big folder, just typing a "pattern", like in webbrowser mode. By the way I remember you can also use wildcars in location bar, and the filters are a good tool too. But again what I'm saying.. they're all a bit hidden inside the hundreds of konqueror features. (SHIFT + CURSOR are great! thank for the cheat)

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Superstoned

12 years ago

as some others here are saying, another search bar is not the way to go. why not do the same as now, exept we match better and hide non-matching icons? now you can type the first letter in konqi, and it'll bring you to the appropriate icon. but if you continue typing, it won't work. if that would work, I think konqi would be quite a bit more usefull...

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fake

12 years ago

The idea is good. There are two possible approaches:
1) hide the non-matching icons
2) highlight the matching icons

The first one would work well with Konqueror in file manager mode. The second one instead would work very well in the Control Center. See what Apple will do in their next MacOSX: http://images.apple.com/macosx/tiger/images/spotlightprefs20050111.jpg

Both would be quite useful. Any developer listening? :-)

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earth

12 years ago

Yes, I think both ways can be useful. But I think with the approach of MacOSX I still would have to use the mouse :)

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isma

12 years ago

Yeap, I think also it would be a great idea. Konqueror needs to improve its search way as well other apps are doing (have you try new KPDF search bar? It's increadible). It remains the unusable search panel like the W9x one.

But adding a new search bar near to dir bar would be a bit bloating (Google bar, search bar in directory, etc.) Couldn't be a little textbox in status bar, with the behaviour you have said, like KPDF one? Or maybe it brokes usability rules or something? I don't know far about KDE design rules.

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isma

12 years ago

I forgot to mention, that it could be used also to search for text in a webpage when using konqueror as a webbrowser. What dou you think?

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spankymr

12 years ago

I think the idea is great!

Have you checked out the beagle project.

www.gnome.org/projects/beagle

Maybe KDE should provide a front-end within Konqueror to utilise that desktop search project. Any thoughts?

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fake

12 years ago

Scott Wheeler is working on something similare (but different ;-) more integrated to KDE: http://dot.kde.org/1109163846/

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meyerm

12 years ago

Hint:

Konqueror supports some basic vi commands. The navigations keys work and also search. Simply type "/" followed by the search item and you get the text highlighted :-)

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earth

12 years ago

Navigation keys (you mean j and k, don't you?) are great! They're one of the reasons I prefer konqueror over firefox :)
Search with "/" is also great - but only works in the webbrowser, does it?

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meyerm

12 years ago

h, j, k and l. Oh, and try "SHIFT+CURSOR" (not really vi but a nice not-to-miss-feature) ;-)

Concerning the search: yes, only in webbrowsermode. Of course you can just type the searched word if it is at the beginning of a filename, but not in between.

So this is no alternative to a "real" searchbar like this proposal here - but I thought a nice "cheat" to know. :-)

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earth

12 years ago

Yes, location bar, google bar, search bar... really a little bit bloated :)
The initial idea was a search bar for the file manager only (as we already have find-as-you-type in the webbrowser).
But: it would probably be even better if we had a search bar like the one in firefox, what do you think? then we could have the same searchbar for the webbrowser and for the filemanager.

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hunt0r

12 years ago

Yes that would be great

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