Description: The openSUSE project is a community program sponsored by Novell. Promoting the use of Linux everywhere, openSUSE.org provides free, easy access to the world's most usable Linux distribution, openSUSE.
openSUSE is the distribution with the best integrated and enhanced KDE desktop.Last changelog:
openSUSE 11.1 includes KDE 3.5.10 and KDE 4.1.3 with added functionality.
It's pretty unstable in Live mode and slow. Unstable (KDE4) as it seems to kill plasma from time to time, also there's not folder view and the ability to resize the panel isn't there. This seems like a very poor beta release. You can't blame Kde 4 as the current releases of 4 has better stability and far better functionality. I hope people can recognize that and this doesn't corrupt any moral of upcoming 4.1 release. I really wish you guys would have done it right instead of slapping together what worked for you and pushing crap out. A few extra weeks and some real development would have been the difference between something revolutionary and something that's now come to be expected from Suse. Flame away as the truth hurts.
Running actually on a SuSE 0.2 on Fujisu Siemens P III without problem.
Testing your live CD SuSE 10.3 with a lot of problem.
CANNOT DETECT SOUND card integrated in my ASUS mother card.
Thinks this CD is not tested !! !
review your copy
Sorry
It was my favourite distribution till the MS-Novel deal happen. Before that they worked for the community; now they work against community.
Look at the facts! FSF is working on GNASH and DOTGNU; whilst they work on Moonlight and Mono (Remember Mono works upon .NET). What about the M$ - Novel deal; clearly they are working with M$ against community. Ahh what about Novel position about OOXML? mmmmhhh Maybe Novel was bought by M$. Now I use Debian.
you can't compare moonlight with gnash: moonlight is a silverlight replacement, while gnash is a flash replacement.
And about mono vs dotgnu:
We are all using kde/gnome now, in stead of GnuStep.
So i guess we are all working against the community...
In spite of some things I don't like, I know they are contributing in some ways to the community.
What scares me about mono is this letter: http://www.gnu.org/software/dotgnu/danger.html
Kde/gnome are GPL (free software licences)
Mono relies on .NET(.net is from Microsoft, one day they could claim to own all the code writen with mono)
DotGNU (is free software GPL,LGPL)
Correct me if I'm wrong.
According to Wikipedia:
"openSUSE is a community project, sponsored by Novell, to develop and maintain SUSE Linux components. After their acquisition of SUSE Linux, NOVELL HAS DECIDED TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY AN IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY." (i've highlighted the important part)
I think Novell are pretty keen on not turning on the comminity, considering openSUSE is develped by the community (and a few Novell representatives).
I think you are just blinded by your ego, you hate Microsoft to much to even consider that SOME things they do aren't half-bad (like Visual Studio). Additionally, just because Novell is 'in bed' with Microsoft doesn't mean that openSUSE has become any less of a great product from it.
It is fine to read that OpenSUSE does have never shown problems, but I can not report the same.
OpenSuSe 10.0 has been fine and works any longer on my computer, but starting with upgrades to 10.1 or 10.2 nether worked fine.
I do not know what did change within the Distro, but indeed later version than 10.0 do not work properly on my computer.
I tried to install 10.2 on the computer of my father in law. Same result. This did end in a nightmare. So I decided finally to install Sidux instead of.
I use Suse since version 6.1.
But now I think about to change over to Debian. Perhaps OpenSuSe 10.3 do work better. Maybe.
You probably never ran fedora I guess. My first linux experience was with openSuse 7.0 and I liked it, YaST is easy to use. But I don't use it anymore, I switched to fedora because it has much more updated packages. The current kernel I have is 2.6.22.1-41.fc7 at a x86_64 right from the updates repo and of course because of the speed. I believe fedora is way faster then SuSE.
I took a look at the screenshots and of course its configurable but I don't like those fancy vista-ish menu's with search things flying around everywhere which slow down your system while indexing. They try to make it too easy, but that's my opinion.
I hope it'll exists for a long time though, it's a great distro for ppl who are new to linux or who ... just like it!
I would not be surprised in the future if opensuse disappeared altogether, or became purchase only. It's fantastic after it's configured to my tastes. Turn off zmd and use opensuseupdater, which is very dependable, and import all the missing libraries by hand, and you have a distro beyond compare. That's what worries me. It's almost too good to expect it to remain open source.
And one thing is certain, Microsoft doesn't like the idea of a high quality competing operating system which just happens to be free. Right now they are probably meeting with the Legion of Doom to plan the demise of opensuse. ;-)
"The openSUSE project is a community program sponsored by Novell."
I've used openSuSE since version 10 (used PCLinuxOS before) and have never had a single problem using it. I really hope it will not not be shut down, but it may. I feel it will more likely stop being sponsored by Novell, though I hope neither happens because that could force me to stop using YaST (I wouldn't mind it if YaST was only a package manager).
What about the essential packages missing from the release 10.2 such as the qwt library? They were present in the 9.x.
The SuSE distribution is continuously shrinking. Without these libraries, I cannot develop applications for this distribution.
keeping in mind their mysterious pact, well, i wonder if openSUSE is really going to remain "open" in future as well....but nice to see new release anyway...
I agree with the comments above about releasing too often and fixing the bugs afterwards. I must say it has always been like that, but although many people complained about this and suggested to release less often, they just won't listen.
BUT WHAT I REALLY HATE IS THAT IN RELEASE 10.1 YAST HAS BEEN CRIPPLED.
I agree with the people that also complain about this here. Yast and Yast update system was working great, reliable, and fast since the early days of SuSE, and before anyone else (Red Hat, Microsoft, etc) was able to have a decent patching and updating system.
None had anything working then, apart from SuSE, who had Yast and Yast-updater, WORKING (just working) since SuSE 6.0 or less.
Now, since this zmd shakeware was introduced, nothing works, and when the luck is such that something kind of works, it's just SLOW.
It's sad that now one has to hope for a newer and better updater (like a opensuse updater, or whatever) because the updater already existed, it was good, it was user friendly, it was reliable (very important for such a task, right?), it was called Yast. And now it has been crippled.
do you think that it was released a bit to early?
Powersaved just dont work, IMAP applications cannot connect to some servers, to others it can. MySQL gets error 1023.
I have used suse since 9.1 and have never found any distribution as easy to setup/use as suse, but after Novel took over the distribution I just found more and more stuff that just did not work.
The zmd thingy are just a nightmare. And now in version 10.2 just because I have packman, I cannot use yast to remove applications unless I'm online.
I'm really sad about the turn that opensuse is taking. Please someone, come with some really encourraging comments.
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Why there is no KDE3 liveCD? KDE4 is not mature enough to be a replacement for KDE3. Though, I'm using it (but with kde3 installed).
It's pretty unstable in Live mode and slow. Unstable (KDE4) as it seems to kill plasma from time to time, also there's not folder view and the ability to resize the panel isn't there. This seems like a very poor beta release. You can't blame Kde 4 as the current releases of 4 has better stability and far better functionality. I hope people can recognize that and this doesn't corrupt any moral of upcoming 4.1 release. I really wish you guys would have done it right instead of slapping together what worked for you and pushing crap out. A few extra weeks and some real development would have been the difference between something revolutionary and something that's now come to be expected from Suse. Flame away as the truth hurts.
Running actually on a SuSE 0.2 on Fujisu Siemens P III without problem. Testing your live CD SuSE 10.3 with a lot of problem. CANNOT DETECT SOUND card integrated in my ASUS mother card. Thinks this CD is not tested !! ! review your copy Sorry
My sound card is a VIA82C686 A/B rev20
SuSE 10.3 Gnome is better as SuSE 10.3 KDE
First of all this statement doesn't even make any sense grammatically. 2nd it's subjective. Why bother posting?
LIAR! btw, gnome sucks
looking forward to 10.3
It was my favourite distribution till the MS-Novel deal happen. Before that they worked for the community; now they work against community. Look at the facts! FSF is working on GNASH and DOTGNU; whilst they work on Moonlight and Mono (Remember Mono works upon .NET). What about the M$ - Novel deal; clearly they are working with M$ against community. Ahh what about Novel position about OOXML? mmmmhhh Maybe Novel was bought by M$. Now I use Debian.
you can't compare moonlight with gnash: moonlight is a silverlight replacement, while gnash is a flash replacement. And about mono vs dotgnu: We are all using kde/gnome now, in stead of GnuStep. So i guess we are all working against the community...
In spite of some things I don't like, I know they are contributing in some ways to the community. What scares me about mono is this letter: http://www.gnu.org/software/dotgnu/danger.html Kde/gnome are GPL (free software licences) Mono relies on .NET(.net is from Microsoft, one day they could claim to own all the code writen with mono) DotGNU (is free software GPL,LGPL) Correct me if I'm wrong.
rubbish. Novell has done more than most to work with, encourage, and sponsor the open-source movement.
According to Wikipedia: "openSUSE is a community project, sponsored by Novell, to develop and maintain SUSE Linux components. After their acquisition of SUSE Linux, NOVELL HAS DECIDED TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY AN IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY." (i've highlighted the important part) I think Novell are pretty keen on not turning on the comminity, considering openSUSE is develped by the community (and a few Novell representatives). I think you are just blinded by your ego, you hate Microsoft to much to even consider that SOME things they do aren't half-bad (like Visual Studio). Additionally, just because Novell is 'in bed' with Microsoft doesn't mean that openSUSE has become any less of a great product from it.
i have run suse on my server for years and it runs beautifully never had any problems
It is fine to read that OpenSUSE does have never shown problems, but I can not report the same. OpenSuSe 10.0 has been fine and works any longer on my computer, but starting with upgrades to 10.1 or 10.2 nether worked fine. I do not know what did change within the Distro, but indeed later version than 10.0 do not work properly on my computer. I tried to install 10.2 on the computer of my father in law. Same result. This did end in a nightmare. So I decided finally to install Sidux instead of. I use Suse since version 6.1. But now I think about to change over to Debian. Perhaps OpenSuSe 10.3 do work better. Maybe.
You probably never ran fedora I guess. My first linux experience was with openSuse 7.0 and I liked it, YaST is easy to use. But I don't use it anymore, I switched to fedora because it has much more updated packages. The current kernel I have is 2.6.22.1-41.fc7 at a x86_64 right from the updates repo and of course because of the speed. I believe fedora is way faster then SuSE. I took a look at the screenshots and of course its configurable but I don't like those fancy vista-ish menu's with search things flying around everywhere which slow down your system while indexing. They try to make it too easy, but that's my opinion. I hope it'll exists for a long time though, it's a great distro for ppl who are new to linux or who ... just like it!
I would not be surprised in the future if opensuse disappeared altogether, or became purchase only. It's fantastic after it's configured to my tastes. Turn off zmd and use opensuseupdater, which is very dependable, and import all the missing libraries by hand, and you have a distro beyond compare. That's what worries me. It's almost too good to expect it to remain open source. And one thing is certain, Microsoft doesn't like the idea of a high quality competing operating system which just happens to be free. Right now they are probably meeting with the Legion of Doom to plan the demise of opensuse. ;-)
That means reversing the whole work of at least one year. I don´t think that this will happen any soon.
"The openSUSE project is a community program sponsored by Novell." I've used openSuSE since version 10 (used PCLinuxOS before) and have never had a single problem using it. I really hope it will not not be shut down, but it may. I feel it will more likely stop being sponsored by Novell, though I hope neither happens because that could force me to stop using YaST (I wouldn't mind it if YaST was only a package manager).
What about the essential packages missing from the release 10.2 such as the qwt library? They were present in the 9.x. The SuSE distribution is continuously shrinking. Without these libraries, I cannot develop applications for this distribution.
hello hopefully, kde 4 will be look better than the standard kde 3 configuration... the screenshot is just ugly =( greetz joe
keeping in mind their mysterious pact, well, i wonder if openSUSE is really going to remain "open" in future as well....but nice to see new release anyway...
I agree with the comments above about releasing too often and fixing the bugs afterwards. I must say it has always been like that, but although many people complained about this and suggested to release less often, they just won't listen. BUT WHAT I REALLY HATE IS THAT IN RELEASE 10.1 YAST HAS BEEN CRIPPLED. I agree with the people that also complain about this here. Yast and Yast update system was working great, reliable, and fast since the early days of SuSE, and before anyone else (Red Hat, Microsoft, etc) was able to have a decent patching and updating system. None had anything working then, apart from SuSE, who had Yast and Yast-updater, WORKING (just working) since SuSE 6.0 or less. Now, since this zmd shakeware was introduced, nothing works, and when the luck is such that something kind of works, it's just SLOW. It's sad that now one has to hope for a newer and better updater (like a opensuse updater, or whatever) because the updater already existed, it was good, it was user friendly, it was reliable (very important for such a task, right?), it was called Yast. And now it has been crippled.
do you think that it was released a bit to early? Powersaved just dont work, IMAP applications cannot connect to some servers, to others it can. MySQL gets error 1023. I have used suse since 9.1 and have never found any distribution as easy to setup/use as suse, but after Novel took over the distribution I just found more and more stuff that just did not work. The zmd thingy are just a nightmare. And now in version 10.2 just because I have packman, I cannot use yast to remove applications unless I'm online. I'm really sad about the turn that opensuse is taking. Please someone, come with some really encourraging comments.
Mysql is working here fine, about package management: smart You can install/remove/update applications with it in a very easy way. Forget about yast.